Jeff Cavins -THERMOTRON - DECIPLE SHIP-- vs CHRISTIAN FOLLOWER

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SURE -- YOU GO TO CHURCH-- BUT AT THERMOTRN -- YOU ARE A DECIPLE--

let's start with prayer

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i wanna talk to you about a topic I

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that has to do with offering the
world a better life

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but offering the world a better life
really starts with

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us and our lives and the witness
that we provide

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in the world and so I'm gonna talk
about something that is very

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challenge and probing and job

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world cause you to look at yourself
in the mirror and say

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where Am I in my life with Christ so
let's pray

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and ask the Lord to open up our hearts
and begin this

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incredible conference which really
kicks off tonight I like to talk to this

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afternoon about

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a topic that his is barely got my
heart

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a lot and that is the topic of

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the relationship between a disciple

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and the rabbi our relationship
between

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a follower of Jesus and Jesus

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the great rabbi and I like to
challenge you to examine your own life

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to see where you are %ah it's time
to ask some questions today

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about your relationship with the Lord
and it's a good time for you really to

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ask yourself

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where am I at with with the lower

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if we're going to affect the world
and we're gonna have a profound impact

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on the world offer the world a
better life

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then we have to get a hold of that
better life

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ourselves and we have to not only
learn about that better life

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we have till we have to live that
better life and we have to let that light shine

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and I'm convinced more than ever
that

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the key to letting that light shine
is related to the

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intensity and the focus of our

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own relationships with Jesus Christ
that personal relationship that we have

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that also takes into consideration
the whole family i've got

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the church like to talk about you

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today pope john paul the second set

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he said God is opening before the
church the horizons of humanity

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more fully prepared for the sewing
up the gospel

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he said I sense the moment has come
to commit

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all the churches energies to and New
Evangelization

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into the mission no believer in
Christ

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no institution at the church can
avoid this supreme duty

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to proclaim Christ to all people's

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we call it the new evangelization
because there was the original leave

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angela is a ship in Jesus

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who was a jew and Jesus who was a

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rabbi turned the world upside down
with 12

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man and I like to focus on that one
point today that I believe was critical

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in the changing the world at that
point is that cheeses had

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disciples Jesus had disciples

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he had man who are committed to
following him and give up

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everything to follow him and those
man who were not a

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any particular talent or were not
particularly well-known

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literally turned the world upside down
without one single

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iPhone there were a couple of
Android's but there was no iPhones

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available cheeses

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in a lot of people don't realize
that's when you ask the question

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who was the first missionary who is
the first missionary sent to the world and

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the answer is Jesus

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red F Taurus missioner Redemptorist
missio

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talks about how Jesus was the first
if Angeles

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in the world the first missionary
sent

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from the heart up the father and
during jesus' time there was no doubt those who

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were

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who live with those who are
fascinated with him when Jesus was walking the

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sides a

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besides the Sea of Galilee and he
was going to rob kane and now using Galilee

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and down in

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down in judea there were a lot of
people who are very fascinated with 7-day

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they no doubt even went to his
speaking engagements

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is Jesus was known to be speaking
overhearing a part-time summer sales go

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over here that guy heard is really
good

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my cousin has tape series

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it so they would go in they would
listen to Jesus you give some he also talks in

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there was a lot of people are
fascinated with a

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you know and they might have even
had a few of the series couple books

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maybe even saw monkey WT and a few
times and

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they were pretty fascinated with him
but there was a certain group

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other all the people that heard
about Jesus

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two thousand years ago there was a a
certain group of men

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whose relationship went whose
relationship with Jesus

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went beyond fascination

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went totally beyond fascination a
lot of people are fascinated

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but there is a group that went
beyond fascination these men

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were called disciples they were
called disciples they were passionate

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dedicated followers of Jesus and
they were formed

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by him and they became like him

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they were his disciples

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but what would the first eventual is
a shin have become

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two thousand years ago if those
twelve men

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that followed Jesus were simply
fascinated with them

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and bought his CDs and listen to
them occasionally

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and just sorta went about their
normal life the way

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they were living before they met
what we have had

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a world turned upside down what was
it about dole's man in their decision to

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follow Jesus and what was it about
cheeses

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and his ability to form those man
that turns the known world

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up side down

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I believe that was the intimate
relationship that they had with him

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and outta that intimate relationship
with Jesus came this

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this powerful dynamo a church

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that was not afraid to die

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I believe that they overcame by
sacramental life the blood of the Lamb

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the word their testimony and they
did not love their lives

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even to the death and so something
happened in the time that they spent

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with cheeses

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that change them into the type a man
who are not afraid to die

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and went beyond anything that they
ever imagined

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I really believe the party the New
Evangelization involves

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a group of people like this we're
not interested in just learning more

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butter interested in being
transformed to go beyond anything that ever dreamed

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possible

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the got to do great things with
their lives

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Scriptures tell us in James which
doctor hun was talking about the

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apply biblical studies conference
that took place

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his prior to this one we are
studying the vocab James and James chapter 122

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says but

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be doers of the word and not hearers
only deceiving yourselves

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deceiving yourselves to hear the
Word of God but not do it

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in something becoming self-deception
that's one thing to be deceived by other

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people

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but it's another thing to deceive
yourself

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and I have to be honest with you
there's times in my life where I have

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deceived myself where I got into
studying the Bible which

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is what I do and I love and i've
always I've done that since I was 18 years old

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I

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love it but there are times were all
studying and then suddenly I realized

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not doing this I mean if you've ever
been there before

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I've been there before and there is
a danger

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that we can get into that I have
fallen into

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from time to time you know that
dangerous it's a right

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and you know what the right is the
rot

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is that we begin

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to study and the studying

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out the word be comes our faith

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the gathering of the knowledge up
the faith actually becomes

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our faith you know what i'm saying

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that we are busy doing that which we
should we need to study its part iv:

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part being a disciple of Jesus
studying and learning but what happens is

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is that my catholicism becomes learning
catholicism

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someone says are you a Catholic oh
yeah ya

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I've gotta see the tape series I
have

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are you okay are you a Catholic oh
yeah look at the DVD C-section oh they're all

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the mall the movies we watch

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are you a Catholic she have watching
WTF

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better are you a Catholic

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heck yeah I got a fish on my bumper
sticker

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so what happens is is that

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we sort of fool ourselves into
thinking

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that acquiring the faith is the face

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know what I'm sayin or put another
way

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catholicism becomes our hobby

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who and I have been guilty of from
time to time where

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where my face becomes my hobby

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now there are there's a difference
between different kinds of believers

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I'll say this to play anybody down
just a sort of kind of

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have have a way of looking at our
own lives where we are

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there are what I would call fans
have Jesus

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and is nothing wrong with being a
fan %uh Jesus the dictionary

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defines a fan as an enthusiastic
admirer

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how many of you would say at one
time or another in so can say right now

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I'm an enthusiastic admirer Jesus I
am I meant to Siesta Key admire

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I'm a fan I'm a fan Jesus

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but there's a difference between a a
fan %uh Jesus is an enthusiastic admire

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and a follower up Jesus

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as a disciple you know what i'm
saying

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there's a difference between being a
fan and being a follower

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a fan is someone who knows all about
the subject

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and they're enthusiastic like for
example

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I grew up in Minnesota home love the
1987 +91 world champion Minnesota Twins

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and as a kid growing up in Minnesota
I was a big Minnesota Twins fan

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and I can remember in 1965

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with the twins played the Dodgers in
the World Series sandy Kofax in all these

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guys at

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Metropolitan Stadium I know all the
statistics on the 1965 twins aren't able

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to come and kill a brood

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Tony leavin Cesar Tovar Bob Alice
senator Labadie

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I can tell you about the statistics
later on if kirby puckett

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the Metrodome in the 87 twins the 91
twins

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I know all about and i cant you come
over to my house and you see the twins

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bumper-sticker

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I got my kenitzer dotted and and I'm
all excited jynona

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and as someone may say pet even
snows

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a small hole does he know baseball

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but the truth of the matter is I've
never stepped on a professional field in

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my life

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I'm just of fan but I'm gonna

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doosy stéphane oh yeah

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and the same thing can happen to us
as catholics

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to where we can become enthusiastic
fans for Catholicism

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you catholic whole yes

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I've been every defending the faith
conference

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I can tell you statistics about
Scott I like you would not believe

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and i cant

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I can tell you all kinds of things

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are you a Catholic oh yeah and I've
ira I'm telling you what I'm

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passionate about that face but at
the end of the day

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I never really did 80s other than

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I acquired and so there is a danger

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getting into a right a being a fan

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rather than a follower but i wanna

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propose this two thousand years ago

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fans didn't change the worst

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fans can't change game only those
who are on the field can

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change the game only those who are
involved in the bath they're the ones

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that changed the game

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and that's why the world was turned
upside down because 12 guys

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who initially heard Jesus and bought
that for CD set listen to it

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brought it home their families
listen to it and they made a decision

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I'm gonna follow back I'm gonna
follow him

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I want to become like him how many
have you ever been to college in you had a

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professor and you wanted to know
everything about that what doctor that

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Professor new

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you were so impressed about what
they knew you wanted to you want to know

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everything the top from Professor
new but you didn't want to become like the

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professor well in Jesus case these
guys wanted to know what jesus knew what they

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wanted to become

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like Jesus they want to know how do
you pray how do you do this

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how do you do that so what are the
first questions I'd like to ask

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you is this is there a chance

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that you are following right now

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and edited version %uh Jesus

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well I mean by that

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is there a chance that you're
following and edited version

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ag's something that you heard

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or something that you might have
read but you're not quite sure because

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you have never really met him and
spent that time

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intimate communion and prayer

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and getting to know him and edited
version %uh

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Jesus or are you following

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cheeses now back in Jesus day and I
wanna take you through this just to give

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you an idea

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what a disciple was there the word
for disciple in hebrew is

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told me Taal MIT

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Tommy floral Tommy Dean disciples

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and what is it the site below the
cycle is a discipline follower of a teacher

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and the call of the disciples to
become like the teacher

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now we're gonna look at this because
this was the model that was used in the

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first century this is the

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the scene God chose to come into

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and to use it to demonstrate the
relationship that he wanted

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with his followers which would then
be we %ah

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accented and brought to a much
larger level

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when we come to a bridal spousal
relationship but when it comes to that

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the daily walk with Christ I think
that

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the rabbi disciple relationship
really expresses well

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how we can see our own lives
following Christ the way the disciples did

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two thousand years ago because when I
read that the New Testament you know

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those those books in our

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in the New Testament when I read
that I

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think to myself wish I could follow
in that way

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have you ever thought that before
would be nice just to get up in the morning

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just to be able to follow

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and to listen to him and to do what
he's doing

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that's really what I think our
hearts cry as not to just get up and say

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I'm gonna learn more today which is
fun

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no doubt but gardening is fun too
and a lot of other hobbies are fun too

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but we're looking for something more
than a hobby we're looking for something

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more that

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just learning we want to be
transformed so

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in the first century there was a
process to become a disciple

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and there were a lot of people's
disciples I'll

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shammai had disciples arm

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and ahh lol had disciples

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most to the great rabbis back in
Jesus day had on

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average a five disciples they have
very many

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lol had seventy decide see he had
the most

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but Jesus had how many disciples

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12 number 12 is so is is related to
the Old Testament

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isn't but if you wanted to be a
disciple here's how a young boy would grow up in

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the first century

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from the ages up six to 10

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from the age is a six to 10 a little
boy would go through what's called the bait

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safer okay debate safer

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the house in the book the house in
the book

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and so when Jesus was a little boy
was six years old the Jewish boys would go

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to the local synagogue

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called the bait safer and you would
attend the school five days a week

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typically Monday through Friday and
there would be a local synagogue teacher

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in the local synagogue teacher would
begin teaching these boys

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the torah the five books of Moses

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and so they would start committing
the five books of Moses to

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memory no a while later Jerome said
in bethlehem Saint Jerome said

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that even just our a couple of her
years after

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after Jesus that they could barely
find

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a young boy in the jerusalem
bethlehem

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area who have not committed most to
the torah

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to memory that's pretty intense

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would be something all of our kids
by the time they were in third grade had

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the torah memorized

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have the Catechism Emperor just it
would be incredible

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so on the first day the class the
rabbi would do something very special the

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rabbi would take honey

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and you would cover their personal
slate with honey

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in the shape up words from the Torah
it when the kids would learn star

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learning Torah they were allowed to
lick the honey

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of the slate which they started to
learn that the Word of God is sweet

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to the taste and they developed if
you will and appetite

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for the word to eat the word and
they would eat at

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honey remember the scripture says in
Psalm 119 103

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me the words of God be sweet to your
taste sweeter than honey

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to your mouse well then what about
the a chip 10

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the boys with transition from the PT
se faire the house at the port

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to the bait how lewd

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K so they went from 10 to 14 they
would start to attend

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debate how mood now the best to the
best students would continue one

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at this point the next H the this
big toe mood meant a wholesome learning

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and roughly from ages 10 to 14 in
the big toe mood

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you would memorize the rest to the
Hebrew Scriptures all the way

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to Molokai so by thirteen fourteen
years have each

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you had mock me almost if not up now
all the Scriptures

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memorize to some degree or another
extremely familiar with that

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and even today in jewish seminaries
they still do the same

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you would also at this age begin aid
learning technique

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called Q&A questions and answers

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and now today in schools we memorize
information that we have to write down

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of

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for quizzes right learn this you
gonna you gonna have a quiz

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so we learn things like two plus two
is

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for right but back then

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there was a little bit different
today's teachers love to give tests for the

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students memorize

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lists but in Jesus day the rabbi
taught you to answer

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with the questions of the rabbi said
to you Sun

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what is to plus to

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the student would respond with the
question up

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what is 8 -4

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or what is the square root of 16

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so if your teacher said son what is
two plus two you would say

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what is the square root of 16

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which demonstrated not only that you
knew the answer

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but you knew the answer from
different angles it's kind of like you feel

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logical jeopardy

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you ever seen jeopardy where they
give you the answer

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what do you have to do you gotta
give them the question and that's how this

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took place in this learning

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process by the way when Jesus
parents come in finding the temple what we find

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him doing

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is asking questions as he is a
teaching and learning

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as a young boy twelve-years-old
found him in the temple sitting in the midst

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to the teachers

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both listening to them and asking
them questions well then

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at the age of fourteen certain
students would go to what is called debate

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me drop ship debate need rosh

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and this was right around 13 to 14
years old and it was typically the best

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the best students would move on at
this point

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and at the mall 13 to 14 years old

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a young boy if you aspire to be a
disciple one of the great rabbis would

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approach the rabbi and say

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rabbi I want to become your disciple

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I want to become your Tom need I
want to become your student

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please let me in your bait meet rosh

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your house study let me comment

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be with you and study with you and
so the rabbi would say okay

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and then the rabbi would ask a
series of questions to find out

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if you are really ready and if
you're the best to the best and so the rabbi

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with

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make a determination as to whether
you could become this is the key

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third the rabbi would make a
decision whether you could become like him

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and if you think you could become
like him there's no way he's going to ask you

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to become his disciple but if you
thought that you have what it takes

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to become like him he would say to
you at that point

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leff higher I left

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of how I come follow me

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and so cheese is the one that makes
this frees up come follow me

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this is what a rabbi said to this tourists
future disciples

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you come follow me you leave
everything now

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and you follow me

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a popular document in the first
century pure chaos vote the sayings on the

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father says in

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chapter 1 verse for that a student

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when he finds the rabbi should be at
the end of the day

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covered in the dust up the rabbi

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which means you follow them all day
long you listen to on

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all day long incidently back then
when the rabbi talk

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he SATs and the students stood

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so I like you all to Stand for the
remainder of the conference

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but they with they would stand and
while the rabbi Sat and he would teach

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but what does this say about the
early disciples

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the early disciples you know when a
boy was 13 or 14 years old they went to the

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rabbi said I wanna be your disciple

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at the ages 10 to 14 they were also
being taught their father's trade

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in if the rabbi didn't think that
they had what it took to follow him to become

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like him you know what he would say

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he would seek go ply your father's
trade which meant

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your father stranger to be a
fisherman you going to be a fisherman

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you are not going to become one of
my disciples

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so what does that say about the twelve
men that Jesus chose

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they were chosen by anybody

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they were not selected by anybody
they were passed over

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on the Sandlot basketball game they
were picked last

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on the kickball teams if you ever
felt like that

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have you ever felt non chosen

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they were all plying their father's
trade

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once the rabbi chose you

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and said to you left authorize

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come follow me at that point the
rabbi they would say to you

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take my joke upon you and learn from
me

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take my yoke upon you now that
doesn't mean that you put I wouldn't joke around

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your neck for the rest your life

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and follow but to to take the yellow
cover rabbi

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means that you are now going to
begin to see the world the way the rabbi sees the

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world

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and so when cheeses chose the 12
disciples

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it meant something did and he said
to them take my yoke upon you

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it means a couple of things one is
this

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it means that Jesus

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has chosen you if you're here today

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you're not here today what are you
doing here

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just suddenly realize I got myself
in a corner there

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if you are here today it means that
you are

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either a serious fan or inquire

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or your follower it means that you
are either on the verge of saying

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yes to his invitation to follow in
or you said

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yes and you're looking to go deeper
for you said yes

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and you are really following up
you're somewhere along that line

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right now but window in Jesus says
to every single one of us

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come follow me he saying ivy leaves
you can become like me

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you see it's not dependent all

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on the student is dependent upon the
skillet the rabbi to teach

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into a parked himself to his
students and you comment have you know

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we are following the greatest
teacher in the history

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up the world right in which he looks
at you he says

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you come follow me all make fisher's
amend

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are you it means that you are chose

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enemies that Jesus believe that you
can become

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like amp what if you're going to
become like em their

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pass to feed that relationship that
is indicative of a rabbi and a disciple

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relationship

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echoes deeper than that into a
spousal relationship

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as we've learned so often in our
Bible studies

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enemies we must leave everything

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you know there's an Old Testament
model for this isn't there

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Elijah any liesa we have the story
feel I should deletion first Kings chapter 19

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and in the shop was invited by Eliza
to follow him

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and what did is he should do you the
show slaughter his yoke of oxen

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he slaughtered as joke a box in
burned his plows took cooked the meat

27:07

cook to me and gave it to the poor
in all those around and then

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followed Elisha you got the same
model in the Old Testament

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I'm gonna leave everything to follow
ELISA the New Testament I'm gonna leave

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everything

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to follow cheeses I let me ask you a
hypothetical question here

27:26

let's say that you go into

27:31

Starbucks and you walk into a
Starbucks

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I know so you won't do that escape
let's say you going to a coffee shop

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you going to a coffee shop

27:44

and you're getting ready to pay for
your skinny chai latte

27:47

K whatever foo foo drink you wanna
get so

27:51

you're ready to pay for your foo foo
drink in your stand up to the counter in

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all sudden

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you look over and there's cheese is
in the corner

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and you look you see the guy

28:02

is that it's in yeah he comes in
here every day

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sets yeah

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is here oh my gosh arm

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okay just forget the make it to make
it to

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make it to n you walk over there

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now what with the encounter be like
in your current state

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I love walking with Jesus would you
walk over and say I'm

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excuse me I'm

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JFK prints I know

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would my with my introduction be
such that

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I'm not sure we've met I'm

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I don't want to say I never thought
you'd be here this is

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now obviously this probably is not
going to happen

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I'm it happens to be a lot there is
probably not gonna happen %uh most

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people

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but would you go over to him and say
say on

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I love allow me to introduce I want
you to meet my family

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would it be this unusually you know
kind of

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stiff first introduction

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would be cheese this is a
continuation

29:18

I can see with this is a
continuation over relationship we're just talking

29:22

yesterday about

29:23

this I was worshipping in adoration
or would it seem like

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such of foreign day say cheeses I

29:30

this is so I've got alt 73 your
books

29:38

ago

29:42

multiple versions of it

29:44

sign

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and I want you to meet my family

29:56

I know you're affected know your daughters
better than you

30:00

they spend more time with me

30:03

but what would it be like if you
were meeting him

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now in a in any relationship

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that you have I would like for
example

30:14

you know with my wife and I when we
were dating oh we would all the time

30:18

and then there comes a point in
every relationship we have to make a decision

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are we gonna go further with this
relationship is this relationship can

30:25

stay right here

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and %uh some people call it %uh up

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DTR the college up defining the
relationship

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this is defending the faith DTR is
defining

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the relationship where there comes
out awkward moment where you look each other

30:41

and you have to ask

30:42

where we gonna do are we gonna go further
with this relationship

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or is this is far as we go and if
you were beating with Jesus and their coffee

30:50

shop

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and he sat down with you and he said
to you he said

30:53

where we at where you

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where we have is this is far as
we're gonna go

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or you can come follow we have to
make that decision

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at one point or another in our
relationship but I have a question for

31:09

you

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it's a very good question and that
is this if cheeses

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look you in the eyes today

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in that coffee shop he said
margaret's sit down John sit down

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Mary sit down ducts in town

31:27

Jesse said down call saddam

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look at me where we have

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lord you know I've been so busy

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I know I know all things

31:44

and Wieser come up excuses and he
says where we out and he looked at you

31:51

not listen for psych if he looked at
you in the arts

31:54

and said giorni everybody just say
your name will quickly

31:58

I am inviting

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you purse to become

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my this site if Jesus looked at you
today and said

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today I am inviting you personally
to become my disciple

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what would you say now most of us
would say obviously is for some rhetorical

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isn't yes

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but that here's the question: if
Jesus

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asked you today at that coffee shop
look to your right in the eyes and said

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will you follow me and be my
disciple you said yes to the here's the question:

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is there any chance that tomorrow
will look the same

32:44

as yesterday if Jesus asked you
today at the coffee shop

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will you be my disciple and follow
me let me ask you

32:54

will tomorrow look the same as
yesterday and we all know the answer

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no okay would we

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how many of us would say most likely
at this could be the same thing out some

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people might some people

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living very holy lives I and not
exactly their

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completely but to say that yes

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tomorrow will look the same as
yesterday sort have revealed that I'm not

33:18

really sure what he's asking me
because I'm

33:22

if he asked me Jeff would you become
my disciple

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I might have to say you know um
sorta funny was

33:35

and Jesus well we don't get together
well I know but I read all the books

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ignatius puts out

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yeah I know you do but i'm talking
about. will you follow

33:47

will you be my disciple how how much
time is this gonna require

33:52

everything everything I need to talk
to my wife

33:57

that this is gonna require

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everything she's to get in on this

34:04

so if Jesus asked you that

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you have to answer that question
john paul the second set that we Christians

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are called

34:18

to an apostolic courage to go out
and to change

34:22

the world I believe that there are
certain

34:25

marks other disciple that if we are
going to say yes to Jesus

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and I'm just curious when I
mentioned to you

34:34

this idea of getting up in the
morning and not just

34:40

going about your schedule like
there's no point or purpose

34:44

but getting up in the morning and
the first thing that you think about

34:48

is I am a disciple of Jesus

34:51

I am a follower of Jesus I am NOT us

34:54

spousal partner 12 with Jesus that
from the moment that you get a

34:59

to the moment you go to bed at night
your life is consumed with cheese

35:06

and his mother Saints and the
sacraments

35:09

in the family and you know the whole
story you want everybody else to come in

35:14

and you want to do is work and you
wanna be transformed to me

35:17

that's living that's what life is
all about

35:21

that's what life is all about you
see what people are involved in today with

35:25

all the trivia in their life

35:27

it some Maisie that we are so bored

35:31

and so unchallenged and so depressed

35:34

when you could walk every day with
Jesus know what are some other marks are the

35:39

disciple

35:39

therefore gonna be disciples a price
what were some other marks

35:43

backed into a disciple go through
these rather quickly with you number one

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a disciple is intent on being formed

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to Christ a disciple is intent on
being formed to Christ

35:55

we talked to way he talks we walked
away he walks

36:02

we treat people the way he treats
people we pray the way he prays

36:08

we bring healing the way he brings
healing we have understanding

36:12

in the way that he has understand
it's not

36:15

learning just doctrines and passing
them on

36:19

but is showing people how to live a
new way of living Jesus becomes the living

36:25

example

36:26

life sometimes I think to myself

36:32

when I get involved in so many
things that take me off the path

36:36

I think to myself all to have

36:39

one all encompassing focus

36:43

in my life to have one

36:47

all-encompassing focus to get up

36:50

and to be so passionate you know
I've got a neighbor

36:53

who gets up in the morning and he is
so

36:57

cash about harley-davidson
motorcycles

37:01

thats all

37:04

he thinks his harleys he dresses

37:08

in Harley gear he has other guys to
come or they stand outside all like this for

37:12

half an hour

37:13

look at those machines they drive up
and down the black they go to Sturgis they

37:17

do everything

37:18

their lives are consumed with Harley
Davidson but to be so consumed with

37:25

Jesus

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great jewish scholar by the name of

37:30

she will suffer I E said a disciple

37:34

did not get this a disciple did not
grasp the full significance of his

37:40

teachers

37:41

learning in all its nuances except

37:44

through prolonged intimacy with his
teacher

37:48

this is the one the leading Second
Temple scholars

37:51

in knows discipleship from this
first century very very well

37:55

and he saying that is a disciple did
not grasp the full significance of his

37:59

teachers learning in all of its
nuances

38:01

except through prolonged intimacy
with his teacher

38:05

through close association with his
rich in profound

38:09

my that's what were called to write

38:14

to know the mind of Christ to have
the mind of Christ never to the disciple has

38:18

a passion

38:19

about doing the will of God

38:22

a disciple has a passion about doing
the will of God this study the Bible

38:26

this study the Catechism this study
the lives of the saints

38:30

the disciples jus up his will

38:34

for the will of the Lord to do with
the Lord wants and what's the mission

38:38

of the Messiah and how do I fit in

38:42

jesus said in John 831 he said that
the Jews who had believed in him

38:47

if you continue in my word York
truly

38:50

my disciples if you continue with my
work

38:55

the disciple number three the
disciple knows his teachers

38:59

Voice the disciple noses teacher's
voice

39:03

to be a disciple is to know that
Voice

39:07

and you can only know that voice you
know that scripture says that

39:10

a the my disciples know my voice

39:14

you know that if you go to Israel
and I got israel every January got a second

39:18

time first trip this year if you
wanna go

39:21

if you've been there before
sometimes you going on the countryside in judea

39:25

you'll see one shepherd with his
flock

39:28

you see another shepherd with his
flock sometimes even a third Shepherd and they

39:32

all come together to talk

39:34

and their flocks mingle and you look
at it you think how are they gonna separate

39:38

that mess and that's like the world
today you got Jesus and his followers

39:44

intermingling with all the world at
work and sports events and everything else

39:48

and you look at it and say well who
belongs to Jesus

39:52

all Jesus has to do is speak in his
sheep know his

39:55

Voice and it's really interesting
because all three shepherds on that

39:59

countryside in judea

40:00

a one-time lol speak up with some
kinda cold word or phrase

40:04

and the sheeple followership they
just

40:07

these all divvy out and the Follow

40:10

their shepherd and knowing the voice
of Jesus

40:15

only come its as a result love
spending time with that

40:19

Voice in adoration in his word

40:23

the Catechism in reading the in
cyclicals and

40:27

and in listening to the heart be to
the church you come to know that voice

40:32

this last year I taped new collation
series

40:37

and I was teaching in philadelphia
and I went in the morning in the second day of

40:42

taping

40:43

and I went to a restaurant with one
of my friends

40:46

his wife and we're up there ordering
our meal

40:50

we're getting our meal and %uh as I
got my meal

40:53

this Cup group A five guys come over
there got great big bibles in their

40:57

hands are all excited you know just
all happy the other finals

41:00

and I looked over at him in a sooo
you have such a joy studying the Bible very

41:05

all we do praise God

41:07

you know you love it I could tell
they were Catholic but

41:13

they were they were evangelicals and
they love story the final

41:17

and %uh as all that's really really
great and I got my meal

41:21

and %uh for from left and i win over

41:24

to the table has just about to sit
down

41:27

and just something said

41:30

go talk to that unity

41:34

how many fewer heard it before you
can't just kinda now with the voice some

41:38

other what's the Lord's will what
will he be doing

41:41

out here you know and so I said my
friends in just a second I think

41:44

boorda's you talk to that guy so for
my food down I walked over

41:48

and he was the only one that was
there he was putting cream in his coffee

41:51

and i seven 3s it anybody can do
this

41:55

I said up tell me

41:59

you how excited you are able to
study how did you get studying the Bible all

42:02

praise God I

42:03

mistake the Bible for fifteen years
now and I said really

42:07

that's just great I said I'm really
curious ha tell me about your personal

42:11

relationship with Jesus

42:13

so he started telling meet me about
this personal relationship with Jesus

42:17

and I so how did you get to know
Jesus he goes well

42:21

I was at this college about fifteen
years ago

42:25

and I was really discourage kinda
down in

42:28

and anyway a priest came up in your
dorm

42:32

and he ended up talking to me any
let me to Christ

42:36

I said really it's fantastic it's a
what school was that he said

42:40

00 is a school of Steubenville Ohio

42:45

Franciscan University and I said
really I went there myself sooo

42:49

are you Catholic as a well I was in
the ninth wasn't it now I is

42:55

II came back to the Catholic Church
I said I think as a minister and I came

42:59

back to churchill so you got my
attention now

43:01

we ended up in a conversation and
got his name

43:05

and dialogue and here was a man was
just a guy at a restaurant

43:09

who we had so much in common

43:13

it was father Michael scallions best
friend let them to Christ

43:18

and hear all these years later in a
coffee shop Jesus sent out one of his

43:22

disciples and said

43:24

come home come home that's the work
to the kingdom

43:28

that's just that's what makes this
so exciting

43:32

the disciple noses teacher's voice
all that something I just

43:35

I wanna treasure how we view it's a
you how many you repay

43:39

I know you would but you pay
big-money to know the voice

43:43

%uh got how many of you would say I
would love to

43:46

only one of you aquatic was also the
rest if you wanna do

43:54

yeah okay money for that

43:59

you paid for the conference with
your paper

44:04

then I pay for that well let's pay
for it in not big money big time

44:10

I pay big-time to hear the voice

44:14

or would you pic big-time to hear
the voices lower

44:19

one more mark I'll give you some
kinda running out of time

44:22

I'll this is my introduction soul
the disciple

44:32

as a number of things that a cycle
does differently %uh a disciple

44:35

I'll a walks in humility

44:38

the cycle works in humility we know
who we are in relationship to God we know

44:42

who we are in relationship to the
world

44:44

we walking in humility humility is
strength and controlled by God

44:48

another one is a we we as disciples
we love

44:52

deeply we love deeply jesus said
they'll know that you are my disciples

44:57

how not the bookcase not your car
not sure CDs

45:03

they'll know that you are my
disciples by your

45:06

love for one another CS lewis won
said that got me a great gamble when he said

45:13

to the world

45:14

you can judge whether they're mine
based on how they treat each other

45:18

and how they love each other and
it's a cycle takes great

45:22

risks in evangelizing great risks
and evangelize

45:26

I could tell you story after story
where I had to put it on the line you know say

45:30

am I gonna take a risk here in open
my mouth are much can be quiet

45:34

let this go but there's another one
that really captures my imagination and that

45:38

is this

45:39

a disciple relates to things in time

45:43

differently a disciple of Jesus
doesn't waste time

45:47

a disciple of Jesus doesn't worship
things

45:51

and consider things the end-all
everything is a means to the end

45:55

and that is to serve God all created
things are for the Creator and His

45:59

purposes

46:00

and we are stewards and so as
disciples we change our relationship

46:04

from owners to Stewart's from
possessors

46:07

to those who were to take care what
God has given us

46:11

the disciple %uh cheeses

46:14

emina end with this the disciple
love Jesus

46:18

dies different the disciple

46:23

love cheeses dies different never
heard that before

46:28

talk the disciple of Jesus lives
differently

46:31

but the disciple of Jesus dies
differently you know we as Catholics we

46:36

pray the Hail Mary

46:37

a lot and you know that the focus is
that prayer

46:40

is that our our out by deaths at the
hour of my death we

46:47

died differently we die hopefully
the state %uh

46:50

rates but we'd die differently

46:53

the world is afraid of death the
world is afraid of death and

46:58

Archbishop Fulton Sheen's gave one
of the best answers to how do you fight

47:02

that fear of death

47:03

you know the early disciples says in
the book of Revelation they overcame

47:07

by the blood of the Lamb the word of
their testimony and they love not their

47:11

lives

47:12

even to the death because we are so
caught up

47:16

in Jesus his mission and that's
certainly true that we have about

47:20

eternity

47:21

terms are following him but
Archbishop Fulton Sheen's said number one fear the

47:27

people have today

47:28

is death and he said you know why
they're so afraid

47:33

he said they're so afraid

47:36

because they've never practiced my
dad in math when I was growing up I hated

47:45

math tests

47:46

my dad had a PhD in math and
electrical engineering he said Jeff it's fun

47:55

such a generation gap here he say
traffic

47:58

it's fun he said listen listen bob
he said if you study for the test

48:03

did you get ready for the test you
QQQ wat bring you good

48:07

but if you're not prepared you get
so scared

48:11

art with Bishop Fulton sheen says
reason we are so afraid of death

48:16

inordinately afraid of death is that
we have not practiced

48:20

and as catholics and disciples of
Jesus we practice

48:24

dying daily we give up our lives

48:27

daily for Jesus but if we're fans a
fan does it die

48:31

for the Yankees a fan doesn't diet
for his team

48:36

he's fair-weather follower of Jesus

48:40

is willing to lay down his life or
her life

48:43

because the the and their trust in
cells

48:47

to the one who can take their soul
have

48:50

and soul we as Catholics

48:53

must practice as disciples
mortifying the flash

48:57

practiced giving ourselves up for
other people

49:00

dying to our own are own will
picking up

49:04

will up Jesus the disciples

49:08

finally make disciples

49:12

the disciple of Jesus

49:15

makes disciples Matthews the last

49:19

chapter jesus said going to all the
world

49:23

and make told me team

49:26

go into all the world and make
disciples

49:30

every one of us has that mandate on
our life

49:33

you've got children God has called
you to make disciples

49:37

if you've got a neighbor God has
called you to make disciples every one of us

49:41

should have

49:41

just a handful of people maybe 2-3
people in our lives

49:44

that we are actively praying for
we're pouring our lives into

49:48

we're meeting at the coffee shop per
se que up Marquardt has a new book I want

49:53

you to read it

49:53

let's go over it together let's pray
together we should be making

49:58

disciples and certainly in the home
we should be making

50:01

disciples a disciple of Jesus

50:05

makes sites so let me encourage you
with two things as we conclude

50:11

two things that I would encourage
you to do as you leave here

50:15

three things

50:20

possibly for is number one

50:24

to commit yourself to go if you're a
fan

50:27

this isn't that this isn't meant to
to put you down but if you're a fan

50:31

recognizes and say I'm not gonna be
just a fan anymore I'm gonna be a follower

50:36

I'm gonna be a disciple make the
adjustments make time for Jesus every

50:41

day

50:41

study is word visit the sacraments
go to Holy Hour

50:45

go to confession regularly get into
it disciplined relationship with him

50:50

wake up it's not all into your head
you've got a real relationship with him

50:54

every day

50:55

okay that's number one there were
two allow

50:58

Jesus daily to edit

51:01

your life allow him to edit your
life

51:05

allowing to take away what needs to
be taken away and allow it to add what

51:09

needs to be

51:10

which can't do it outside of an
intimate relationship and finally I would say

51:14

this

51:14

ways you go out from this conference
start

51:19

giving out free samples

51:22

of Jesus everywhere give out free
samples of Jesus

51:27

every where you go mercy justice

51:31

kindness understand prayer

51:34

a good were being courteous

51:39

being loveless praying for people

51:43

inviting give out free samples you
know how you go to the State Fair somewhere

51:47

else

51:47

and they hand out these little
packets a perfume here it's free

51:51

I okay you open up to put it on and
also

51:55

you know 10 girls wanna go out with
you %uh to buy the whole bottle as a single

52:00

guy so I don't say that

52:01

that so the single high sets and so
a sample

52:10

is designed too sore to catch your
attention

52:13

hopefully you want the whole thing
and I think it's a good idea that his

52:16

disciples

52:17

let's get into the habit of giving
out free samples of Jesus

52:20

everywhere we go white bottle it up
why keep it to ourselves

52:25

why keep it on their bookshelves
assist are given a free samples

52:28

let's just tell people about Jesus

52:31

let's let's be honest with the most
prevalent let's give them a reason to

52:35

ask us about the whole

52:36

that is within its shall we there's
so much more that we could say

52:40

so we will notch

52:44

IV drug of here just a moment salt I
want to conclude

52:49

in prayer but I out a way this has
been so on my heart lately

52:55

and that is going from a fan or
follower and I just hope that encourages you and

53:00

gives you a little bit about
checking your own heart

53:02

and look to that relationship
remember you are chosen you are chosen for

53:08

something your chosen

53:10

for something not just saved from
something

53:13

but saving chosen for something and
that is to serve God

53:18

walk with him in all throughout this
conference start thinking about yourself

53:22

and come for out co2 vina

53:23

start thinking what is a larger
calling me too

53:27

that deeper relationship the new
evangelization